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unpopular opinion day + memes!

I ranted about Han's skeeviness in ESB for yesterday, so I'm doing the unpopular opinions today! Though probably not for every conceivable fandom.

UNPOPULAR OPINION FRIDAY SATURDAY

Darcy/Fitzwilliam makes more sense than Darcy/Bingley, Fitzwilliam/Anne, or Fitzwilliam/Georgiana. Fitzwilliam/Georgiana, by the way, is kind of creepy.

I suspect many, many monosexual people are partially repulsed (like me!). Other people getting up in arms about how my being repulsed (...by men) is so misogynstic is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard.

The Jedi are disturbing not because of the no-attachment thing, but because they’re raging hypocrites: samurai pretending they’re monks, and in the process messing up all those kids who are brought up to be monks. It’s like if the Air Nomads expected the Air Nomad children to abide by Air Nomad teachings, but fight like Fire Nation officers. Um, no.

I will always consider James a better person than Snape, even at his worst phase, because (1) James only picks on people his own size and (2) James does not join any genocidal hate groups.

I do not care how many lionturtle statues were randomly placed throughout the series, energybending still came out of nowhere. I like it as a solution, too. :(

I kind of wish Daine had become a goddess. I know, these plots are always about the renunciation, but...

I've seen five of the Doctors so far. Ten is my least favourite.

Polgara/Durnik is a bit weird to me. Not as weird as Sparhawk/Ehlana, though.

Gaston is the best Disney villain ever.

Fanfic isn't a gift; most authors write what they want to write and hope for the best, which is not generally how one goes about giving gifts. (Well, I really like Jane Austen, so here's a nice Oxford edition for you, Daddy!)

Penelope deserves better than Odysseus.

I think St. John Rivers is more likable than Rochester. Yup, I went there.

The extended edition of TTT does not begin to rehabilitate Faramir's character. It just makes him kind of pathetic.

I don't think tomboyish Jill saying that Susan's lost interest in Narnia because she doesn't care about anything except makeup and parties and staying young as long as she possibly can = adult female sexuality is evil.

Troi is 'eh' to me, but the virulence of the hatred for her is a bit ... disconcerting.

Colin/Mary OTP!

Gilbert (from Tenant) is kind of a jerk. Though obviously he can't approach the Charlotte-and-Emily levels of jerkassery.

High Wizardry's jokey Lone One as Darth Vader thing wasn't offhand geekery, it was epic foreshadowing. Think about it.

And [personal profile] tree just reminded me that I have been slacking on my mission to spread memes like a bacterial outbreak, so here are some proper ones.

Asexuality meme

Day 26: Who is your biggest ally?

My greatest ally is ... hm. I don't know. Not anyone in my family, certainly. [personal profile] tulina and [personal profile] hl , probably. (Yes, I know that's cheating and that you'e not really one person. But really.)

Day 27: What is your favourite type of cake?

Ice cream cake! Chocolate cake with oreo inside.

Day 28: What is your favourite type of pie? (Or, is pie an acceptable replacement for cake?)

Chocolate cream or eggnog. And it's about six to one half-dozen the other for me -- I'm not honestly much of a fan of either. And no, I don't feel excluded from the community because of this.

Day 29: Where did you first learn about asexuality?

Google.

Day 30: Tell us anything about asexuality that you want to end with.

There's a lot of debate about what asexuality really is, how exactly it works, what "makes" people asexual, who are trufax asexual people and who are special snowflakes, etc etc. A lot of this, as far as I've seen, comes from sexual people struggling to define the lived experiences of asexual people.

Protip: don't.

The ace community already has a quick 'n easy method of determining who is asexual and who is not. It goes like this.

Do you identify as asexual?

If yes, then you are asexual, congratulations, sunshine and sparkles and cake all around. If no, then you are not asexual, sunshine and sparkles and cake all around.

Thank you.

Fanfic meme

Day 26: What is the oddest (or funnest) thing you've had to research for a fic?

Huh, let's see. I did some research into entailments, but that wasn't so much odd as boring. (Blackstone = best sedative ever.) A lot of my research is like that, titles or names or Sindarin or calendars or clothes or hairstyles or whatever.

Oh, I know! I researched genetic sexual attraction and the Westermarck effect for the latest version of Subsequent Connections. Odd and fun!

Day 27: Where is your favourite place to write, and do you write by hand or on the computer?

My bedroom, and the computer. My laptop carries everything. Well, and a dozen backup discs, because I'm paranoid.

Day 28: Have you ever collaborated with anyone else, whether writing together, or having an artist work on a piece about your fic?

I've had artists for the three au_bigbangs, so technically I have for those, though they could tell you that I'm...not much of a collaborator. Otherwise, hl and I have brainstormed fics a few times, and I came up with the premise and helped brainstorm for A Long Engagement, so there's that. I tend to the bossy, though, so I work better by myself.

Day 29: What is your current project or projects?

ahahahahahahahahahaha

How about we narrow it to the things that I actually intend to finish in the near future: three five things fics (Leia, Catherine, Lucy), I'm considering a sort of femmeslash AU of First Impressions (or...not FI, but what I decided not to do at the outset), the sequel to Lucy Skywalker, and something to do with Subsequent Connections. I'd also like to finish up my shorter projects, like Padmé's third of Distaff Lines and whatnot. Oh, and there's a self-indulgent short Lucy AU. This is a very small portion of the things actually on my plate, though.

Day 30: Do you have a favourite fic you've written? What makes it your favourite? And don't forget to give us the link!

Unquestionably, First Impressions. Now that I've got a little more perspective, I can see things that are wrong with it or that I should have done differently. Charlotte's storyline just disappears, for instance, the end is really rushed, I should probably have varied the Netherfield scenes up a bit more, blah blah. But it's still my favourite. It took so much effort to work it all out and I don't think it shows, which makes me happy, I kept wanting to insert arbitrary changes (but what if they were wizards??) and didn't, my well-established love for Darcy increased exponentially for Catherine and I was terrified of Sueifying her -- but instead, she seemed to be everyone else's favourite part too. And just technically, I think the writing was a bit stronger than usual?

But the main reason? It's a Regency P&P retelling with girl!Darcy. Not Elizabeth-as-Darcy, not role reversal, not modern AU, girl!Darcy. I wanted to see this so badly, and it just kept not existing (woe) and now it does. Because I WROTE IT. And people LIKED IT. My baby! <3

Other fanfic meme, 'cause I can

(gacked from [personal profile] jedibuttercup )

The first 10 people to comment on this post get to request a drabble from you. Post all fandoms you're willing to write for.

Comment on this post, and I'll comment back with the link to the drabble when it's done. Just give me a fandom (or two, for a crossover), a name or pairing, and a one or two word prompt. Use your imaginations!

Fandoms: Austen (bookverse), Star Wars (original or prequel trilogies; no EU), Tolkien (anything), Harry Potter (bookverse). They can cross with anything on my fandom:___ tag.
 

Comments

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ladyhadhafang
Oct. 15th, 2011 09:49 pm (UTC)
Um...regarding Faramir, I'll admit, I kind of watched the Extended Edition of TTT first (let's say my parents had the Extended Editions lying around the house, in case I may someday need to watch them. :), so let's say that Faramir's motivations...I can't say I agreed with what he was doing, but I could feel sorry for him. And there are several spots of doubt in what he's doing; for example, when Frodo tells him that the Ring won't save Gondor, etc. (There was even going to be a little segment in the Henneth Annun cave where Faramir sees what Frodo could have become if he held onto the Ring for too long: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1gvvuTGlL1qbu2p6o1_500.jpg. But they ultimately scrapped it because they thought it would be too redundant) And the ROTK Extended Edition also helps rehabilitate Faramir's character a bit (IMHO), with his befriending Pippin (which makes Faramir's near-suicidal charge all the more heartbreaking, really) as well as standing up to his father (using lines that were originally Gandalf's in the book, but I'm thinking they gave them to Faramir for maximum impact. To show how much he's grown since the man we met in TTT) and comforting Eowyn in the Houses of Healing. I personally love Faramir because he's kind of broken, naive, grieving over Boromir's death (that's another reason I loved that scene in the TTT EE; we got to see the love between the two of them) and yet trying to do his best to honor Gondor -- as he puts it to Gandalf, "Where does my allegiance lie if not here? This is the city of the men of Númenor. I will gladly give my life to defend her beauty, her memory, her wisdom." The problem is that Denethor doesn't see it -- he loves Faramir, yes, but as Gandalf basically puts it, it's not until the end that he realizes it. It may not be true to the book incarnations, but I think, ultimately, it's more powerful that way. Showing the both of them as flawed people, and Boromir being the epicentre of them breaking. TL;DR, they're both quite broken, flawed people, and...well, I can be too much of a sucker for the broken and the flawed for my own good. #Sorry if I'm not making sense, BTW; let's say it's kind of hard to explain.

Anyways...*clears throat* Drabble request time: mostly some ideas (you pick which one you want to do):

1. The aftermath of Bespin, Luke's POV.

2. Arwen at the Ford of Bruinen, FOTR movie-verse.

3. Eowyn at Pelennor Fields, book or movie-verse.
phyloxena
Oct. 16th, 2011 06:43 am (UTC)
Hate is good! Can't miss this one
MovieMir: unredeamable. Nononono. F.'s purpose ITB is not representing basically human, weak and pathetic, but still kinda cute Gondorians, and not providing every self-aware reader/viewer with another flawed but nice guy to identify with. F. ITB is flawless, pure awesome and only can exist as a relatively minor character (arguably, also to show how Numenorians normally operate in love and war, because Aragorn is too busy all the book doing something irregular).
Great prompts!
ladyhadhafang
Oct. 17th, 2011 10:29 pm (UTC)
Re: Hate is good! Can't miss this one
That may be true, but...Rule of Drama. Rule of Drama. And yes, flawed characters can be overused at times, but if executed right...*ponders and muses*

And...thank you. I guess. :)
elizabeth_hoot
Oct. 22nd, 2011 04:31 am (UTC)
Re: Hate is good! Can't miss this one
I pretty much agree with phyloxena, except that I don't think Faramir is perfect so much as ... exemplary. However, I see absolutely no need to rehash Boromir's arc with somebody who's supposed to be a foil to him, as well as one of the 'friends least looked for' that Elrond mentioned as well as a model of everything that's good about Men (which, given the constant reiteration of how Men are weak and power-hungry and blah blah blah, is possibly even more necessary in the movies).

Also, I think that "it's more dramatic!" is ... vastly insufficient, given that the tension in the book comes from being terrified that he'll be just like Boromir, there are all the signs that he's going to be like Boromir, it's building and building and ohshitohshitohshit OH WAIT HE ISN'T. Eucatastrophe ahoy! The whole point to his character is being not-like-Boromir. Smashing a shiny (and yes, dramatic) eucatastrophe for run-of-the-mill drama -- yeah, no.

All of that said, however, I do have drabbles! I didn't do the Arwen one because I should have said 'no movieverse' (that must have been a typo *sincerity mode*), but I did both the others (TW for -- canonical -- suicidal ideation in the first):

Éowyn's

Luke's
ladyhadhafang
Oct. 22nd, 2011 12:16 pm (UTC)
Re: Hate is good! Can't miss this one
That may be true regarding Faramir, but even so...I do think the eucatastrophe of the movie is him basically saying, "Fuck my dad, I'm letting them go." Or, in more exact terms:

Madril: You know the laws of our country, the laws of your father. If you let them go, your life will be forfeit.

Faramir: Then it is forfeit.

On the other hand, great job for getting those drabbles done! :D Seriously, they're awesome. :) Thanks. :)

Edited at 2011-10-22 12:17 pm (UTC)
nestashouse
Oct. 22nd, 2011 08:41 am (UTC)
'I will always consider James a better person than Snape, even at his worst phase, because (1) James only picks on people his own size and (2) James does not join any genocidal hate groups.'

The way the revelation of James's nastiness disturbs Harry's hero-worship of his father is one of the most interesting themes in the series, but JKR never develops it fully: James reverts to being the I'm-there-for-you-son paragon. Much of his bullying of Snape seems to arise form adolescent swank rather than real nastiness - and Snape is what I call 'a natural bullyee'. However, you could say that Snape's consorting with a hate group is inspired by loneliness: better to belong to a nasty group than no group at all. Don't most of teenagers feel like that? And when the nastiness gets out of hand, like Snape they find it very difficult to bail out.
Snape bullying Harry can be understood (if not excused) by the fact that every time Snape sees H it reminds him of the loss of Lily. H ought to be his son, not the son of detestable James. When it comes to bullying poor Nigel, however, there is no excuse.

I've seen five of the Doctors so far. Ten is my least favourite.
Which is your favourite? I've seen all the doctors since the beginning, and my favourite was Christopher Eccleston, whose tenancy was so lamentably short. Never will I cease to cherish his answer when accused of having a northern (British) accent: 'Lots of planets have a north!'

'Fanfic isn't a gift; most authors write what they want to write and hope for the best, which is not generally how one goes about giving gifts. (Well, I really like Jane Austen, so here's a nice Oxford edition for you, Daddy!)'

Don't we all write fanfiction because we love the books and characters? And it is nice to have a fanfic about one's favourite book 'given' to one - unless it's, say, a slash one and you hate slash.

Penelope deserves better than Odysseus.
Quite agree. Poor girl, stuck at home with her everlasting weaving and endlessly pestered by all those suitors. If I were her I'd have taken Argos and gone off on an extended holiday, telling old philandering Od. to phone me on my mobile when he finally got back.

I think St. John Rivers is more likable than Rochester. Yup, I went there.
Can see your point. Might even find SJR easier to live with than Mr R - but then, I'm not a passionate person. What I admire about SRJ is his calm, perfect self-knowledge and the way he uses that knowledge to shape his life for the best - for other people as well as himself. (OK, Jane would not agree on her own account, but she does admit, having the same kind of self-knowledge, that she would have done the job extremely well if she'd taken it on, because she couldn't live with herself otherwise. And, unless you write it off as pious convention (which I don't), doesn't the ending of the book betray a nagging feelign in Jane herself that SJR has chosen the better path?

'The extended edition of TTT does not begin to rehabilitate Faramir's character. It just makes him kind of pathetic.'

Agree entirely. It makes him ten times more wimpish. That bit about Pippin's armour not fitting him either ... ugh. I've given up watching the EE.

'I don't think tomboyish Jill saying that Susan's lost interest in Narnia because she doesn't care about anything except makeup and parties and staying young as long as she possibly can = adult female sexuality is evil.'

Not at all. CSL was nailing a feature of modern Western life that has only got worse since his time: the obsession with youth, especially female youth, that fuels a colossal cosmetic industry and makes it so hard for older women to like themselves as they are, or expect other people to. Susan could have got married, or got a job (at the time I don't think she could have done both), and behaved in a proper grown-up way, and Jill would not have criticised her. I don't think being grown up in that way would have debarred Susan from Narnia. Peter, after all, is thoroughly grown up, and so are Diggory and Polly. The idea seems to be that Susan has lost not her (sexual) purity but the riches of her imagination. Becomign adult doesn't doom you to lose that unless you deliberately set out to do so.
elizabeth_hoot
Oct. 24th, 2011 09:24 pm (UTC)
...er, maybe a bit long.
I thought the treatment of James was interesting, definitely -- and I think we get a bit more of it with young!James in "The Prince's Tale" in the last book. Adult James is consistently heroic, but I think that's rather what she was trying to do with him -- someone deeply flawed as a kid who genuinely overcame those flaws to become a good parent and a good person who didn't inflict his issues on the next generation.

Snape, as far as I can tell, genuinely liked his friends -- JKR's comments about being torn between his affection for Mulciber and Lily backs that up. I don't see it as driven-to-join-any-group-that-would-have-him -- I think he liked them and their bigotry was appealing to him; Lily's blood status was comparatively unimportant to him because she was one of the good ones, not like the others that were to be killed.

Re: Neville, I assume Snape hates him because Neville could have been the child of prophecy instead of Harry, and then Lily wouldn't have died. It seems very much in Snape's bullying-children-for-things-they-have-no-control-over MO.

Re: DW -- The ninth was my second favourite (that line was brilliant), but my absolute favourite will always be Tom Baker. His tenure was well before my time -- I'm twenty-five! -- but I've adored just about everything I've seen, down to the cheesy special effects. It helps that Romana is my favourite companion, too.

Re: fanfic -- well, not necessarily. For instance, there are plenty of Twilight fanfics that are about how sickening the books are. There's an entire genre in HP fanfic addressing the general vilification of Slytherins. There are Fanny/Henry, Mary/Edmund fics that try to correct the (to many) unsatisfactory end of Mansfield Park -- in fact, fic-as-fixing-canon is pretty widespread.

I think fanfic is about -- entering a dialogue, in a way, with a work or the community or whatever. What a fic is saying and why the author wants to say it varies considerably. It's a reaction. Like, I love your Fíriel fics? But I don't think of them as for me. It's more "that was amazing and I like it for these reasons and agree with this and this" than "thank you."

Re: JE -- I'm kind of unsure about the end. I think it implies that it was what was best for him, anyway: to follow his conscience where it led him. And unattractive as his zealotry is, well, at least the rigours of his conscience will prevent him from marrying against his will at all, let alone locking a wife up in the ... parsonage pantry or whatever.

Re: Narnia -- I definitely associate Jill's condemnation of Susan with Lewis' hatred of the modern fear of being thought "childish" or of being associated with childish things; there's that famous quote about how the fear is itself a kind of childishness, and someone who's truly matured needn't fear being caught with a book of (awesome!) fairy-tales. Jill definitely associates Susan's superficiality with desperately wanting to be a young adult forever and cutting herself off from everything in her childhood.
puffadango
Nov. 14th, 2011 02:00 pm (UTC)
Lurker de-lurking for a moment...
I'd been lurking and reading your posts and fics for years... This is actually the first time I've signed into LJ since... a year ago, I think. I feel like I learn a lot from your posts, lol.

Anyway... Is it terrible and horrible for me to be rooting for... Lucy and Han? I've only read until Chapter 6 of your "Lucy" fic (I think), and... I don't know, I feel them for than I'd ever felt Leia and Han in the actual trilogy. Possibly because I'd thought Luke and Leia would be cute.. until they were retconned (?) as twins.. and then continued to try to ignore that for as long as I could. But anyway, for some reason I really like the idea of Lucy and Han...

And I heart Colin/Mary, too! ^__^

I must admit that I've been dying for more SC... It's a guilty pleasure, haha.

Btw, am I in the top ten comments? Oooh, if I am... could I possibly request something 1) Lucy/Han and/or 2)Colin and Mary? The prompts... um... "discovery" and... "hide & seek"? XD
elizabeth_hoot
Nov. 21st, 2011 10:52 pm (UTC)
Re: Lurker de-lurking for a moment...
Wow, thank you very much. I generally assume it's just my little group of friends that reads, so I'm always thrilled to find out that other people check it out too!

Not horrible at all! I think Han and Luke have a ridiculous amount of subtext in the movies and that they'd totally have gone there if Luke were a woman (while Leia and girl!Luke would be demoted to subtext until everyone decided they were sisters, lol). So Han/Lucy is sort of roughly parallel to pre-incestuous Luke/Leia, as I see it, and I support all possible combinations.

Colin/Mary makes me so happy, lol. Yay for other shippers!

I do plan to get back to SC and stuff at some point, but everything is so hectic atm that I haven't had time for much that isn't short. (Also, SC is totally written as a guilty pleasure sort of fic, so I'm very glad to hear someone describe it that way.)

Yes, you are only the second person to ask! I shall see what I can do about one of those prompts
elizabeth_hoot
Nov. 29th, 2011 12:02 am (UTC)
Re: Lurker de-lurking for a moment...
So, it's neither exactly a drabble (*whistles*) and it's not canon for the eventual Lucyverse, but it's how I think it'd go if... certain things happened: here.
puffadango
Jan. 11th, 2012 03:56 am (UTC)
Re: Lurker de-lurking for a moment...
I recently got a chance to get back here! Thanks for the drabble! I went, "Awww... T_T" but I still liked it.
Oh, goodness, I love your icons, btw. They make me squee.
As for Luke's subtext with.. everyone... I think it might have something to do with him being all bright eyed and innocent. It kind of.. draws the other two to him. Too bad he wasn't a girl, haha.
elizabeth_hoot
Jan. 15th, 2012 01:43 am (UTC)
Re: Lurker de-lurking for a moment...
You're welcome -- I'm glad you like it! Heeh, my friends were all '...um, are you trying to make your prompter cry?' but I did have fun with it.

Thanks about the icons -- I don't make any, but I'm pretty much addicted to them and love collecting the coolest I can find.

I definitely think it's a pity they didn't stick with the plan of making him a girl, but at least it doesn't change a whole lot. :D
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